Bunny Young: The Reality of Entrepreneurship

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Today’s guest is a stunt woman, turned third generation entrepreneur, retired therapist, and Slayer of magical topics like work life alignment. I believes in the magic space at the intersection of life work and purpose Bunny Young is joining us. How’s it going, Bunny? Good. I’m just laughing at my own intro.  

Like you’ve heard it a million times. You would think it would still not be funny to me. Well, I’m glad you’re so humble. You know, I had one guest, Josh Barda, he’s kind of become a friend of mine. And one thing that he said after his intro, I kind of took the reverse role with him. And I said, um, you tell us about yourself.  

And he’s like, Oh man, like, how do you talk about yourself without sounding like a douchebag. You just do. Yeah. So a lot of stuff. Um, I want to talk about, I’m excited to talk about this one, because a lot of these topics in your area of expertise are things that I’m passionate about or kind of like we were talking before we hit record.  

Um, a lot of the listeners are new entrepreneurs, and I think it’s important to talk about the reality of entrepreneurship and not just the fancy fluffy stuff. So I think that’ll be fun. Um, so. I think the obvious place to start is with, you know, based on your bio is the stuntwoman topic. So give us the abbreviated version of that, because I want to focus more on where you’re at nowadays, but how can you not ask about being stolen?  

So that boils down to the fact that the dude I was dating, offered me a free trip to China, if I would marry him. And I said, that sounded pretty cool. And then since I’m really not good at not doing anything, I talked to the stunt team. Um, but he was joining into allowing me to join as well. And so I ended up working six days a week and he only worked with two or three days a week on the set.  

Yeah. Which, and it was great though, because I idle hands for me is the worst thing possible. So I ended up also becoming a seamstress in China, which there’s so many, the ironic things about that. And also teaching English too. Like some of the, we legit lived in a village, so some of the village kids, so it was the best thing ever, but I.  

Was a model for 16 years. And so I think that the people that ran the entertainment company figured that this really tall blonde chick would look great in a Chinese stunt show to a Chinese. And they just did not. Yeah. Not factor in the calculation that I’m about as coordinated as Bambi on ice. We made it work.  

Um, there’s too many things to go into, so I think I’m not even gonna touch it. Well, the bottom line is it’s really good for a marriage to start by setting your husband on fire, like five times a day and shooting at him and being paid to kiss another man. That’s really just the end of the story there  

Yeah. Bunny young. It’s been a pleasure. We’re going to leave it at that. And thanks for jumping in on the show today. Yeah. I don’t know how we’re going to get better than that. So, um, thanks for going over that. So. All right. Let’s see. Let’s see what we can make work. So you got from a settler coffee out.  

That was pretty good. So you start lawman I’m third generation entrepreneur. So tell us about the two before you. Yeah. So my parents are just some kick ass human beings and I’m their only child. And they vastly yeah. Between we stopped at perfection and I was basically all day you can handle so somewhere in between, there is the truth, but what basically, I realized that I wanted to be anything other than an entrepreneur.  

Not because my parents didn’t inspire me, but because it was hard work, you know, I grew up in an environment where. During the summers, I would hang out my grandfather’s trucking company and my cousin, and I would take the office rolling chairs in the back of the 52 foot long trucks and just like have these horrible battles that, you know, probably rivaled Ninja warrior now. 

And, um, and then during the school year, I never wanted to call out sick. Cause I knew I wasn’t going to go home and just watch TV. I was going to end up laying on the couch in my mom’s office, listening to her. Do client phone calls and accounts receivable and accounts payable. And if I wasn’t dying, I would end up filing.  

So what’s the difference? I was like, no, versus at school, like don’t call my mom. I don’t care. Like I just let me say here. Um, and it taught me a lot about. Hard work. And I, if I think back now as an adult, while as a child, I kind of had resentment towards my parents company. Um, I joked that it was like a sibling.  

Yeah, I had to compete for attention. My mom never missed a practice. I played three sports growing up. She never missed a trip or an opportunity for me to go and do like a modeling shoot or any kind of opportunity that I had had. She never missed a tournament. She never missed a game. My dad coached me all the way up until high school and it’s just.  

I pretty much had it a bomb childhood from a parental unit standpoint. And they consciously made that decision to have their own company so that they could have that amount of freedom. And my dad came out of the military. And so he knew that there was this position of you work this hard and you’re limited by this pay grade and entrepreneurship didn’t really have that.  

He could design a company with my mom where they. Could kind of have the sky’s the limit they built a team, had employees had staff members. And, um, I still look back at that and just have mad appreciation. I took all of that knowledge of hard work and decided that I knew I wanted to help people and I wanted to make the world a better place, but I really thought that I was going to do that in a.  

Conventional setting and by conventional, I mean that, I thought I was going to be a therapist. I was either going to be an international civil rights lawyer or a therapist. I definitely didn’t think I was going to have a family. I just thought I was going to be jet setting and, and being a superhero. And, um, Once I became a therapist and kind of realized that I was a quasi entrepreneur setting my own hours and that I designed this career that literally I was being paid by the hour.  

Um, and I felt like it was borderline prostitution where I was just paying for services rendered. Um, I was like, yeah, I am pretty sure prostitutes make more money per hour than I do. So I saw a need in. Being able to help organizations with being a business therapist and I have a service dog. And so I also.  

Several times made the joke until I finally realized that my dog was a better therapist than I was. And I transitioned into this animal assisted learning environment and professional development through experiences at ranches, or, um, it just there’s like this whole world that I could bore everybody with, but it really only jazzes me, but it was the first  

Two times that I had thought, well, what if my paycheck wasn’t limited to my hours sitting in a chair and what if I wasn’t the professional, but I use the environment around me and made people aware of the environment around them and how that impacted either their success or their emotional state of being.  

You know that there’s a lot of interesting things that, um, you covered. And I tried to jot down a little note, so I could kind of hit, hit some of these you surprisingly, you are not alone with the animal therapies. And interestingly enough, you said ranches. We’ve had a guest named Angela Demery who works in a question I’m going to slaughter it.  

Horse therapy. Okay. You can’t say slaughter and horse therapy. Check-in band. When you’re being recorded a quest, I don’t even remember the word a quest equine to it. So equine is correct, but it was like beyond the word wasn’t therapy. There was like one word that tied it all together. Like just, just one word instead of two.  

I don’t remember what it is, but anyways, Angela Demery. And so she, when she was a guest, she talked about how, um, kind of like you just implied with your dog, how her whole therapy session is. She brings her clients into the ranch and introduces them to the horse and then kind of uses the horse as a translator and figures out what’s going on.  

Yeah. Yeah. And that’s what I ended up doing. Yeah. I burned out from being a therapist. I happen to one of the things that I’m going to tell your audience is that it’s all about relationships. And my supervisor, as a therapist, ended up being married to this gentleman who was pioneering the space of neurology and equines and human neurology and equines.  

And she. I’m not going to say she doesn’t like horses, but if they’re not her favorite. So when I was her. You know, resident in counseling. Um, she basically said to her husband, like take bunny and use her as your mental health practitioner and with the horses because she doesn’t want to be in an office.  

And I don’t want to be with a horse. And it worked out and we had, uh, individuals that were coming for therapeutic outcomes and we ended up having CEOs. That came for therapeutic outcomes, such as addictions, such as needing disorders, such as post traumatic stress. We’d worked with the military. We worked with cancer warriors.  

And so one of the CEO Rose was like, can I bring my team? And it kind of started this thought of, well, why would you want to do therapy with your team? But. There is humans in therapy. And, and I started this argument for there needs to be business therapy. They they’re definitely most people who sat on my couch, couldn’t stand their boss, borderline homicidal ideations of their boss.  

And if we were able to bring everybody out to the ranch who better to teach us how to work better as teams than an animal that for. 2 million years has been our 5 million years has been operating successfully as a herd when we have been doing it extremely dysfunctionally for 200,000 years. Yeah. Well, you know, that’s, that’s what I was going to ask next is to clarify what you do.  

So the reason I ask is because you’ve humbly admitted perfection as an only child, as a tall blonde stunt woman model therapist, seamstress in China. So, so what do you tell people that you do nowadays? Is it that business therapist? I think business therapist is the words that I use for a common language.  

But if you ask me what I do, my eight year old, sums it up in the best way possible. And she says, mom saves the world. And if I get to go to bed at night, thinking that I’ve left the world a little bit better, when we say save the world, we’re thinking like a superhero, you know, blowing up the death star.  

I’m pretty sure I just took a lot of universities and mix them. And I’m probably going to get some direct messages after this. I hate mail, but you have to understand I’m not. Well versed in any of those worlds. Um, but you know, if you just made the world for me, I can only speak for me if I, if I go to bed and I made the world a little bit of a better, hence why that’s why I named my company.  

Then it was a good day for me. And. You do the same thing. And my neighbor does the same thing and my husband does the same thing. And your kiddos do the same thing. We can save the world. Like it’s not going to be some Brad Pitt character that now you’re going to have to pay for me using his name. Um, I’m just racking it up.  

For you right now, this interview is never going to Lucia. We should have stopped when I joked, but now I’m serious, but it’s not going to be one monumental shift. It’s it’s going to be little shifts all over the world and it’s definitely a movement. And so I own five companies and one of them is a nonprofit, but they all fall under this umbrella of how do I use what I’m passionate about in a way to.  

Help people become more self aware of how they can save the world. It’s always interesting when I have, um, you know, you and I have never met or talked prior to 20 minutes ago, and what’s interesting is every time I have a guest that I’ve, I’ve never had any prior introduction to is, there’s always a topic.  

But we ended up touching on that is immediately relevant to something else that just happened to me like within a day or two. And so what’s interesting is, is just yesterday you talking about saving the world kind of one person at a time. And the magnification of that is, um, you know, like six months or so ago, there was, um, a new entrepreneur that found me online from some post I made and started following me and sent me a message like, Hey, I like your podcast like this. 

I like that. Whatever material of mine she was following. And I said, yeah, I’m happy to help you with these other specific questions. You’ve got, let’s just go grab coffee real quick. And so I met her that one time. Didn’t really talk to her after that for like another six months. Well, like two, three days ago, she popped in my mind and I just sent her a message and it was, it was literally one sentence.  

Like, how’s it going? Just checking in. And she just wrote back with this novel and said, it’s so amazing that you wrote me at this time because I’m not going to lie. Things have been, um, entrepreneurship was new to me. Um, it’s been hard. Uh, I I’m getting past the worst of it. I think I’m in a better space now.  

And you just, that one message was enough to her to like, make her go all back in and then like the next day, same thing she says, I know we talked for a little bit. On messenger yesterday, but I went home and sat on all the feedback you gave me and I’m in a whole new world now. And all I did was say, how you doing?  

And it just magnifies, magnifies, magnifies. And I got endless stories like that. And I’m sure you do too. And so, you know, circling back is, I think it’s amazing. And just like you said, you don’t have to go be a superhero and do. Wildly national news featured theme. It can really be just one person at a time.  

And then that impacts too, and that affects 10 and on and on and on. Yeah. And, and I’m going to tank your feelgood story with that. Like two days later, you’re going to get a message from her that our hair’s on fire and she’s on that downward curve. What do I do now? Like what the, you know, like, It, it happens in, and it happens to all of us in as a therapist.  

I remember people leaving my office being like, thanks. I’m sure. And it’s like, no, you’re not, you’re a human, it’s going to take you literally 45 seconds to get into the car and screw your life up all over again. And it’s not. So the magic really is in the fact that. Hopefully that email is something that she saves and that she posts in her office, or I’ll have people make when walls.  

And it’s not like a shrine to yourself, but it’s the acknowledgement that entrepreneurship slash life. Is a series of really high highs and really high, like low lows and the ability to figure out how to manage both of those. I mean, entrepreneurship is like bipolar disorder professionally. It’s just, that’s it.  

Every single day I can hit 10, 15 Hines and 17 lows in a single day. Sometimes. But when I’m down there and it’s in, I’m in my home and I don’t want to talk to anybody and I’m like, why didn’t I just continue getting a paycheck that was so safe. It’s not. The knowledge that there’s going to be a high again, but it’s the first step that I’ve been here before, and I know how to get myself out of it, or I can recognize when I am, have my hair on fire and I’m tanking that I can throw my hands up and be like, I’m going to enjoy the ride down because I know how to get myself back out of this.  

And that awareness alone is really. What’s so many business owners and so many professionals can hold on too. And that be the little bit of light to know that life does suck. It’s gonna suck. Like I don’t have a solution to take the suck out of it, but at the same time, You’ve also experienced some really good things in your life.  

And you’re here for a purpose, like as long as I have a heart condition and I have this thing where I will have an entire audience of people, put their hands on their chest, not in an inappropriate way, put your own hand on your own chest. And I say this because we need to clarify it’s 2020 right now.  

But as long as you feel that within your chest, That’s how I know I’m not done. Like I’m here for a reason. I’m here for a purpose, regardless of if you believe in a higher power or what higher power you believe in. If you have that energy within you use it for what you’re here to do. Yeah, I agree. I think that was the main takeaway.  

You know, the, the story of, of that lady I just mentioned was the abbreviated version. And I think more importantly too, to your point is that she’s, she’s aware of, of that roller coaster now. And I think that’s the main takeaway for the listeners is that like it’s okay. And it’s normal. And I think it’s funny that you use the word about sucking with entrepreneurship because that’s one of the things at all.  

I’ll say a lot of times when people ask me questions is. It sucks, but there’s the pros outweigh the cons, but don’t think it’s going to be an easy ride. And, and like you said, there’s no solution to it. It’s just acknowledging it. That makes it way easier. Yeah. Yeah. And not holding on to the suck. Um, I shared a.  

I, this is gonna be amazing right now. I should say Tupac. Whoa. Cause you know, you can fit your coffee. I was in a really shitty business partnership and I got out of it and things got better, but I mean, in the middle of it, it was just awful. And you were talking about themes and life and for the past couple of days, people have been like, Oh, you know, Like, have you ever talked to that person since then, or blah, blah, blah.  

And I was like, no, that’s not. I have no ill will towards, towards that person. And so the Tupac quote that came across my, um, like consciousness was the fact that he’s like, I, it’s not that I don’t wish that that person. Can eat or put food on their table. I don’t, I don’t have, I’m going to totally mess this up.  

So I apologize to pop wherever you are. Um, but yeah, I just cut like a second too late, you know, it’s not that I don’t wish that they don’t have food to eat. It’s just that I don’t want them to eat at my table. Yeah. And that’s really an entrepreneurship flow. It’s the ability to take those blows and take those punches and take the suck and be like, okay, cool.  

That didn’t necessarily lead to success. So I’m going to go over here and I’m going to focus my attention on something else. That’s going to lead to success because when you. Bad mouth people, or when you like harness all of that negative energy and then out just spitting vomit on that person and that energy isn’t ultimately fueling your company and it’s not helping you and it’s not helping your family.  

And when we talk about work, life alignment, if I’m over here, like. Woo doodling. Somebody who did me wrong. I’m not making the world a better place. And so I’m not walking my walk. And I can’t say that I’m not perfect. And I don’t occasionally like flip somebody off in traffic, which probably makes the world a better place in that brief moment.  

But it’s, it’s like you just move, move forward. And I’m not saying move on, but move forward. Don’t forget that that person fucked you over, but like, Just move on. Yeah, it’s it. I think that’s, uh, like a growing, uh, like a phase that we all kind of have to go through at some point, because we all hear that and know that, but we don’t really do it.  

And, and it’s, it seems like it’s, um, what I’ve noticed in others is that they have a hard time realizing that it’s not selfish. You’re not being selfish by distancing yourself from others, for self improvement and self preservation. And sometimes people. Feel guilty about saying why I don’t want it not answer that call or I don’t want to not require, I don’t want to do not do this thing, but like you can’t help other people until you help yourself first.  

Oh, there’s a total reason why on the airplane. They’re like, actually I have a chance to work with the military. And so, you know, on the airplane, when they’re always like, Hey, put your mask on before, you know, you help somebody else. I had an opportunity with a military contractor to test that out because I just thought I was the shit in it.  

And I was going to be able to get everybody else’s mask on before I pass the FL. Yes. What, not, not, not the case. For everybody listening. If you’re on an airplane, you a mask on first in your own company, you put your mask on first because you know how many people’s jobs rely on my ability to maintain my self awareness and to know when my hair’s on fire and.  

You know, I’m headed downhill. You would ask me offline to tell your listeners something that I suck at. And I will tell you, I docket saying no, I suck at Oh, for sure. For sure. I suck at when somebody says like, Hey, will you blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I’m like, yeah, sure. I can do that. So over the past couple years, I’ve set up using like, um, artificial intelligence and automation in the companies I’ve used virtual ways to say no.  

And we even have a hire on her, our team. She is called the vice president of getting shit done, that she goes through my emails. And sends me the emails that I need to pay attention to. And she takes everything else that I would say yes to, but then I would tank myself by taking that on my plate and she just puts it other places.  

And we put up an autoresponder. If you emailed me, you probably got this autoresponder that says go the F away. I mean, it says very nice change. We change it every single month, but it has all of the links too, because I have the five companies and I don’t have five emails for every single company. And so it, basically, the autoresponder says.  

Here’s all of the people in all of the companies that are probably a better contact than bunny, because this is their job. And it’s really just her job to be working with my individual coaching clients and speaking. Those are my two things that I am really good and gifted at. But since I’m. Really crappy at saying, Hmm, no, like that’s, that’s not something that I’m willing to help you with face to face.  

I can’t say that. And it’s really not helpful for me to just Mark unread to your email 15 times as I’m slowly, passively, aggressively ignoring it. Like the auto responder just takes care of it. And it’s just like, look like if this is what you need, here are the appropriate people. Most of the time, the website’s designed to give you the answer to the question that you’re emailing me about.  

And if you really need me, then text me because if you know me and you work with me, you know, I’m not going to answer my email for days on end. So there you go. And I mean, have we lost business or clients over it? I don’t know, but have we gained a whole lot of sanity as a team because of whole entire team knows that my expectation is that if I happen to fire off an email at 11:00 PM, because as you and I talked about, like, as parents, we have some weird nights sometimes.  

And. That’s just when I was being distracted, as I’m sitting in the ER, cause my kids or face open, if you were onto my email, unless you’re sitting in the ER somewhere, like don’t do it. And I actually have some tools on my phone and on my desktop that they’ll. Send emails out in between certain times. So I can be emailing at 3:00 AM, but it won’t send it until, you know, appropriate human hour.  

Yeah. We’ve got that. But I mean, that’s really one of those things I had to be honest about because I was at that’s the therapist in me is that somebody is like, Hey, do you have 15 minutes? Or do you have time for coffee? Which is an hour and 15 minutes, maybe like I have time for a 10 minute phone call.  

Yeah. It’s so, um, the, this is, this is something I, I I’m on the same page with you about, um, even just yet, should I had to say no to a coffee thing? Um, but what is often surprising when I talk to people about my roles kind of running, running with what you talked about with your roles is I don’t have messenger installed on my phone.  

I don’t even have the email installed on my phone. All our phone calls go through an auto attendant and that auto attendant shuts off at five and is off all weekend. Like you can’t get through, I don’t give my cell phone number to clients. And like you said, when I’ve been on the other side of the mic on other podcasts and people ask me, have you lost business art?  

Same thing, maybe. I don’t know, but I’m a lot happier through that process. It wasn’t business that I could serve at the incredible capacity that I’m currently serving my clients. Like I backed down and chose to just, just work with four individual clients when I’m doing this work-life alignment, executive coaching.  

And I don’t mean an executive in the aspect that it’s, um, you know, just with CEOs of companies, it, sometimes it is, but it’s an executive and they aspect that you’re making the executive decision. To run your life rather than, and run your company rather than having it run you. And when I made that decision to just go down to four clients, everybody’s like, well, how are you going to pay your bills?  

I’m like those four clients are going to pay X. Yeah. And if they’re not willing to invest that amount of money to get literally 25% of my bandwidth. Then there’s somebody else who will, but why, why wouldn’t you want to pay a little bit more to get 25% of my bandwidth then pay still a lot of money and only get 5% of that bandwidth.  

Yeah. And I work with clients who don’t see it as paying bunny X amount of money. They see it as making this investment in themselves and. You know, like I remember I paid 17 grand. I’ll tell everybody I paid 17 grand and my first coach, like serious coach to work with for six months, I took out a loan. I didn’t tell my husband for the amount of times that I’ve said this on a recorded podcast.  

My husband should know by now it’s like stage, but I don’t think he listens to any of this. Gosh, did I record? You know, and I paid off the loan. In about three and a half, four months, because I invested that the coach, I’m not saying the coach, wasn’t great. I won’t use his, but you know, it’s not that he was fricking magical unicorn.  

It’s the fact that I stepped up to the plate and said, you know what? I can’t have a seven figure company. If I’m not willing to invest 17 grand, like, I’m sure if you went to the stock market and were like, ah, you know what? You gave me seven, if I give you $17,000, will you give me a million dollars? None of us are going to say no to that deal.  

Yeah. But like, you’ve got to put the hard work in and you’ve got to put the belief and it’s not just about the hard work if you’re sitting there and you’re grinding it out, but you ultimately think you’re gonna fail. You’re gonna fail. And it’s what you do when you fail. That’s going to determine whether or not you make it or not, because have I failed hell yes.  

A ton of times. That’s why I’m sitting here, like sharing this. I’m not saying that I’m on Damon’s podcast because I’m a failure. Let me back out of that statement. I’m here because I have these failures that I will call experiences and I’m giving them to you as the listener, as an opportunity to fail better.  

Yeah, to reduce your learning curve. And to know that failure is not something to be fearful of. It’s something to be aware of and it’s a learning experience. And if you decide someday that you want to give it up, find the next thing that you just can’t live without doing. I agree. Where are you talking about taking them for clients it’s it’s important for especially new entrepreneurs to understand that, um, constant connectivity does not equal.  

Productivity, you got to figure out what works for you, whether that’s certain times of the day to do certain types of things or limitations on who you work with. Or like, in my case, not installing things on phones, like you don’t have to be 24 seven. Um, You know, one thing that was, that was came to mind when you were, um, talking Tupac land is talking about don’t eat at my table.  

It reminds me of something that my grandma said, we were talking about somebody in her family and she says, you know, Damon, I love them. I just don’t like them. And I think that’s perfect. Like I’ve used that so many times ever since my grandma said that, because there’s so many people where I don’t have anything against them, I just don’t wanna hang out with them.  

Dude, I’m married to one of those people. Like, and again, he never listens to this stuff, but he’s fully aware of it. I mean, we had a friend that asked me to be like the maid of honor or matron of honor, I guess, since I’m married. And I was like, don’t do it. Don’t ask me to be the matron of honor. And don’t ask me if you should get married or not, because like, I’m going to tell you that it is the hardest 24 seven job.  

I would rather here’s for an entrepreneurial joke. So hopefully you guys get this. I would rather start a restaurant. Then get married again. That’s a good one. I get it like, and it’s not because my husband’s a horrible human being, like on the contrary, he’s one of the most supportive individuals on the face of this planet, but having to run these companies and then also give myself to my children, which I’m obligated to do to keep them alive because they came from me. 

And because I think I signed a contract somewhere along the lines, like the. Oftentimes in my experience, the thing that gets side burner backburnered forgotten about is okay, my marriage and that relationship. And I also, can’t be a really good spouse if I’m not taking really good care of myself. Yeah.  

And that’s those things, those two things are really difficult to focus on because they’re not easily seen as. A return on investment or revenue generating activity. But like with my, you were talking about, um, Uh, having the phone shut off and all of that kind of stuff. Um, in about six months ago, I assigned all of my clients to watch this movie wanderlust.  

Is it one, one, is it wonder park? Wonderful. The kids on, yeah. I wonder park. Where, where is the imaginary park? Yes. Yes. So I wrote out a template email to all four of my clients with homework assignments to watch this movie. And I wanted them to identify who in their life were the specific characters and what they learned and what they were going to do on Monday to make sure that they were building their wonder park and also identify all their chimpanzees.  

And like my husband’s like you did what? And I was like, these kids, these little minion Vinnies. They’re my inspiration. Like they’re my freaking muses, because if I didn’t shut off the notifications, I really wouldn’t be hyper aware of all of the things in life and the opportunities out there that ultimately we’re building and creating businesses to have more of, like, we don’t want more emails or more notifications or more like, Slack.  

I’m sorry, Slack. I do like you, but it’s just so many channels. So, and it’s channels within channels. It does, you know, I’m going to switch the carrier pigeons eventually. So, you know, but that’s, that’s really that space of. Of being able to see the inspiration around life. Like I wrote a freaking gigantic article on it.  

What I learned from star Wars, the new star Wars movie, and how I applied it to the fact that meditation is going to rule the world or make the world a better place. And it’s not about what we do in business. It’s about the emotion with which we do it with. And I, I’m not gonna make any spoilers cause I really don’t want death threats from your listeners.  

I’m not a star Wars fan, but I watched it as somebody who’s trying to make the world a better place by the world, the companies with which I invest my time and my energy with. Yeah. All right. So I know you got about 10 minutes, so we’re gonna kind of go into rapid fire mode. Cause I still have it. I still have a huge list of stuff I want to, I want to hit with you.  

So let’s, let’s see where we go. Um, I’m going to double down on the parent thing. So we either got listeners that are going all in or all out right now. Um, wonder park was, um, yeah, it was interesting as a parent because I was like, the movies were obviously there for kids, but they know that parents are going to be with kids.  

And so they. Directly put things in there that the parents will connect with another movie kind of like wonder park that I really had some interesting, like, Oh, I get that. I get that. And relate-ability moments was inside out. You seen that? Yes. As a therapist. I think I assigned that to like so many people.  

Yeah, that was a good one. All right. Kay. So I’m gonna, I’m gonna cut your answer. This is no an involuntary, immediate reaction. Is that why it’s so hard for you? Like, is it just, it doesn’t just come out like yes. I will help you. Is that why you have to put a buffer in between? I’m not sure. I think at the end of the day, I used to worry about how people perceived me.  

And I say I used to, because I think once I’ve put these buffers in between me and I’ve seen the. The outcome of not having the apps on my phone and not having the, um, reaction. I don’t have that problem as much. I really don’t care what people think about me anymore. Um, I’m pretty confident in the human being that I am at nit and in the work that I’m doing.  

But when somebody asked me if I get help, that definitely comes from my mom because my mom really just helped everybody. And my dad’s a. He’s like a 97% asshole where he’s extremely useful and extremely helpful, but he just doesn’t like humans. And I think after being a therapist, I’m pretty burnt out on humans.  

And so I want to give my energy and my resources where they’re going to make the most impact. And I’ve, that’s taken a while to get there Daymond. So now when I say yes, it has so much more meaning. Than just saying yes, a hundred percent of the time. So I do say no a lot more now. And I needed those tools to help helped me become better in my life.  

Ventek self. Cause I would say, yeah, I would help you. But then I really wouldn’t show up as a super helpful human being. Cause I didn’t want to be there. Yeah, for me, it’s really boiled down lately to, I have to know the person is going to try. I’ve got really burned out on people. I’m like everybody says they want to accomplish bigger and better things and they can have the most perfect roadmap that will guarantee them a successful outcome.  

And they just don’t even take step one. Like those are the people I’m trying to distance myself from all. Yeah, absolutely. Um, so heart condition at an early age, how that change life’s trajectory. If at all. It made me hyper aware and super aware because there were a lot of conversations that were had about what I should or should not be doing.  

And I basically decided that I would rather. Die going out in the blazing flame of glory, then just be bedridden for the rest of my life. And it’s not that those two extremes were my options that it taught me how to be more mindful of my body and my awareness and the fact that doctors don’t know everything, no offense doctors, but I’m the expert on my body as long as I’m listening to it.  

And. I also don’t plan like on this rental agreement, I figure I took out all of the warranties and the extended warranties. And so I plan on turning this thing in dented and dinged up and scratched and all of those when I check into heaven. So you’re going to get this body back, not in a very good shape and I’m going to use it to its fullest extent.  

And I also just, I have faith I I’ve had, since that diagnosis I’ve had. Even more faith that I’m here to make the world make this impact. And I think the biggest impact that I have had honestly, is having my kids. And I was told not to do that because I had a heart attack, but they’re my legacy like work done.  

These two human beings are just. Amazing. I wouldn’t even have to wake up tomorrow and do anything because I’m pretty sure that they’re well, I’m pretty sure one’s a super villain, but I’m pretty sure one of them, so that it’s just, don’t from the, I know we’re running out of time. So what I can say is that.  

Don’t let somebody else tell you what the limitations are within reason. I’m not giving medical advice, but within reason, you know, I didn’t want to live a fear based life. And I didn’t want to live a life where somebody told me this is the only way. And my service dog is, is one of those things. I was on like eight to 11 medications for my heart condition.  

And my nurse practitioner was like, have you considered having a service dog? Because a service dog could tell you when you were having these highs and lows and your heart rate. And would need to take the medication versus I was just taking eight pills all the time because we’re humans and we’re idiots at taking care of ourselves.  

I’m speaking to myself, listeners, please don’t get offended. I was an idiot at taking care of them. Yeah, that’s it. Yeah. So you’ve offended listeners, doctors, and star Wars fans. So I’d like to give you the opportunity, a formal opportunity to offend offend anybody else like to smoke. Oh, I mean, I’m not, I’m not down for, for my goal is to make people think, you know, so if something offends you, something that I’ve learned is  

No one can crawl inside your body and make you feel a certain way. And so if you’re offended by what somebody else has said, like do a gut check and see why that impacted you in, in the way that it has. And I can speak for me, it’s because 75% of the time it was true. Like I needed to stop being a Dick or, you know, whatever the offensive comment was.  

Yeah. I did a podcast with somebody who basically made the. Comment that it’s like amazing how successful of a entrepreneur you are with two kids when you’re supposed to be at home raising two kids. Oh, wow. That was like, you know, that should, I mean, in a real world be offensive, but to me, I realized gut-check.  

That’s not me. That’s on him and that’s his insecurities. And so why am I going to be all hot and bothered by it? I have a great day in service dog. You know how many times a day somebody says, Oh my gosh, I didn’t know. You could bring a horse in here. Like that’s your fricking ignorance. And. It has nothing I could get pissed off and I can’t get, I can’t tell you with honesty that I don’t get annoyed sometimes, but you wouldn’t walk up to somebody in a wheelchair and be like, Oh my gosh, you have like the monster truck a wheel.  

Yeah. But it’s just a lack of awareness. And I think the more exposure and awareness that individuals have to all different kinds of humans and we’re just going to become more aware. So it’s not gonna help if. I make a snide comment or a stupid comment. My animal social reaction is based on their ignorance and I only have control over my emotional reaction.  

Yeah. All right. So I know you gotta go. So I got one comment, one last question that I can’t skip and you can give me the super short answer, and then I’ll give you the form to put out contact info. Um, so the one comment is to add to your lyrics catalog for reference. When you talked about plays of glory is you can now reference in future podcasts.  

Um, Kurt Cobain says something like better to burn out than fade away. So now you can put Tupac and Kurt Cobain into your Rolodex. Okay. Last question. Um, you had said you had an amazing childhood, but still resented your parents, entrepreneurial endeavors, something along those lines. Yeah. Why, why the conflict, if you acknowledge the amazing childhood, but still have that resilience.  

I think I had the resentment as a kid, and this is genuinely something that I have to tell my mom over and over again as an adult, because she remembers me making, I think a statement when I was little there’s a little timer. Don’t worry. How did that come through on your end? You’ve still got like in my eye 10 minutes.  

I’ll give you more time. Not because of you, but because of your gorgeous listeners so that they’re not offended. So. She heard the comment. And I think she internalized that and she wanted to do everything she could including warning me over and over again about not making the same mistake with my kids and not spending too much time working.  

And to put that in parallel, I work less than 10 hours a week. On my five companies, not per company, but just on my five companies, but my mom still wants to make sure that I’m there and that I don’t miss out on the big things. And so she’ll still make those comments. And as an adult. I realize, and I I’ll slice this out other than the fact that I dropped the F bomb, which I apologize, mom, I’ll go to confession.  

Like I will tell her that as an adult, I realize all of the amazing things that she did for me and that the company afforded and all of the hard work that my parents created as a kid kid, I just didn’t understand. Why because entrepreneurship wasn’t really what it is today. It wasn’t sexy. It wasn’t new.  

Um, I think the sexiest thing was that my parents had those giant brick cell phones before any of my other friends had them foot-long antennas. Yes. You paid so much money for them. And the only reason I think that they had them was so that they could be at my practices and my games and not miss out. On, if they had to call a client, like my mom used to park in the parking lot of my practice and bring all of her work so that she could watch me from the car car while making the rest of the client calls versus just hiring someone to come and bring me to practice.  

And her stay at the office. Like she pulled no punches when it came to. Being there and being present for me. But what I saw was the cell phone and the work coming home. I mean, she took there, they had like a kind of a startup company, um, that she’d moved the office and paid for a warehouse to move to the office to just because I didn’t want.  

The office of the company in our, the house. I wanted to come home and have my parents to myself and not, yeah. I have even the visual of their company being there. And so she, she just, I can’t even express how many things that she did in retrospect, like looking back as an adult and now as an entrepreneur that she did to make sure that there was a really hard.  

Line. And there was work-life alignment and that everything that she was doing with bringing the work, you know, she rented a hotel room while she took me down to like some amusement park in Southern California, because it was tax time. And she had to get all of the tax stuff for the company together.  

And anybody who has ran their company for like three or four or five years knows that tax time is. Yeah, pretty awful for a small business owner, but she rented a hotel room, a nice one, but she did it by the hour the whole day. He laid it out, like all of the tax stuff so that she could get it done. And I wouldn’t miss being able to go to this amusement park with a bunch of my friends that I had already had planned and she volunteered to drive everybody down there.  

So that she could be there with me. And, you know, in case I need anything with my heart condition or, I mean, she just, I do not today. And mom here, I have zero resentment from the company from Mackelroy, from my childhood. I have zero regrets. You made. Every single one of my dreams possible. And every single life that I touch as an entrepreneur today is firmly seated in the woman that you are and the father that you also had.  

My mom and my grandfather are the two biggest. Seed leanings. I don’t know how to put that. They seed funded right there. They seed funded me. Um, I need to go buy that domain seed funded doc. I mean, they, they truly did. It’s just when you’re a kid, it’s sometimes it’s, it’s difficult to understand and comprehend entrepreneurship.  

I think it’s changing. And I want to definitely know your thoughts as, as a dad on this. Um, you know, I just want. I want my kids to know that there’s a divide and that I’m not constantly, like you said, you know, not having the notifications on the phone, you know, like I want my kids to know that they’re my priority and that I’m not always tied to my phone.  

I’m not always distracted. And I think we do have a today in today’s world with. Connecting with our kiddos and connecting with other humans. How many times do you go to a restaurant and you see a couple out on a date night? Like they’re on the phones. Yeah, crazy. So, yeah, so to clarify, like I today have zero resentment towards my mom and, and the company that my parents, um, built and grew and then sold. 

I have a tiny bit of resentment that my college fund, apparently since I got it. A scholarship to my undergraduate, my college, no, it went into a, in ground pool. Yeah. It’s the only little resentment that I have that technically I was an adult quote unquote, so it can’t be from childhood. So, so they revoked, they revoked your, your fund once you got a scholarship?  

No, my mom just decided like we were getting this pool and. Not we, her and my dad, because as a child, I guess they had this like 10 foot diving board and all of this stuff. And, you know, they sold the company and moved to, um, the same city that I went and got my undergraduate because they wanted to be with me.  

And I don’t, I have no bones about that. That was awesome that they came and supported me and all that kind of stuff. But I just remember like the pool and. I think somewhere along the lines of the comment was made of like, well, since you got a scholarship, I don’t think my mom made the comment. I think somebody else did, but it was my mom’s cool.  

And so that’s kind of the running joke of being like, well, I’m so glad my education is in a salt water pool somewhere. Yeah, that’s now that’s amazing of your mom, um, that, you know yeah. She, she tried to align those things and especially in a time that’s different than now, where you don’t have as many technological conveniences to minimize some of those things that she could still go out of her way and then good on you for being able to, to change your perspective now, in retrospect, and I think part of that’s just.  

Unavoidable like you have to figure it out for yourself. So that’s cool though, to hear that out. Um, I know you got to go, I appreciate your time. I’ll give you the last couple of seconds to put out, uh, your contact information website. Just whatever you want to throw out there. Yeah, definitely not my email, which is, um, so Instagram, I’m all over Instagram. 

That’s my most authentic place to connect with me. And it’s Bunnyhassixlegs, um, because I have a service animal for those of you who weren’t tracking and you can direct message me there. And then there’s also at a better place consulting, which is the, a better place consulting. Um, Instagram. And then bunnyyoung.com does have my calendar on it, Damon, just so you know, like it has my calendar on it and there’s, there’s always, um, time on there. 

It may be a month. It may be three months that you got to wait, but there’s always time on there too, to schedule a phone call with me. And I always have time. If you think from listening to this, that I can help you make the world a better place. And that that’s really, it is just bunnyyoung.com. That’s pretty simple. 

I think the team did that. So I never forgot my name, which is a huge risk. And then @bunnyhassixlegs and @betterplaceconsulting dot are @betterplaceconsulting. I’m not licensed to give this contact information. You better be putting the link. I’ll transcribe it all out. Yeah. All right. 

Cut. Kevin’s our editor. Kevin, you got that. Take care of that. Alright Bunny Young, everybody. Thanks so much. Thank you.