Michele Molitor: Breaking Mental Blocks

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And you say last name, Molitar, right? Okay. All right, here we go. Michelle Molitar is an executive competence coach and rapid rewire expert. She is the founder and CEO of nectar consulting. Michelle uses brilliant techniques to shift mental blocks and enhance the capacity of leaders, helping them build high performing teams and exponentially increasing bottom line results. 

Michelle, thanks so much for jumping on. Hey, thanks for having me. Damon’s pleasure to be here. Thank you. So it sounds like you have, uh, the opportunity to work with some really cool people and bring out the greatness in them. Is that kind of how you would describe what you do? Yes, it is. Um, I have the pure joy and pleasure of working with folks from all over the world, helping them literally rewire their brains for better performance and greater joy, health, and wellbeing. 

Like how, how much better than that does it get, right? Yeah. So I want to get into what it’s like to actually work with you, but before we go there, why don’t you tell us how you even get into this field? Where does this whole journey begin? Sure. It’s been an interesting and winding road. Um, in my former career, I was a creative director and graphic designer and, uh, web development.  

Um, I. Got moved from Atlanta to San francisco@theheightofthe.com boom, to work for a hot startup. It was about to IPO. I had a golden ticket. It was very exciting. I thought for sure, I was going to be a millionaire and the market crashed that week instead of a, like literally the week that you’re supposed to IPO.  

Yeah. Literally the week I started was the week we were going to IPO was the week the market crashed. I was like, Oh, that’s not good at all. Yeah, that’s a rough awakening. Okay. It was a big Debbie downer. Um, but we kept persevering and working really hard and thinking we were going to re IPO in the fall or have a do over.  

And the market crashed again. And, and then I essentially got bullied out of my job by two guys that I, I had hired. They really don’t like working for a woman and made it abundantly clear in every which way that they could. And it was quite, uh, quite devastating to me. It really shattered my confidence and I, it was very much a deer in the headlights of.  

Okay, well now what do I do? Because literally the thought of handing my resume to somebody was petrifying to me. Like, no, that’s not going to happen. So I had discovered coaching to help me figure out what to do next. And in the process of being coached, it was like all the cells in my body came into alignment and went, yes, this, this is what you’re supposed to be doing.  

So I went on to get trained and certified, um, up and down and back around again, through a bunch of different ways and modalities and started my own company. And I’ve been doing it ever since. It’s my 18th anniversary this month. That’s very exciting. And, um, so along that path, I’ve continually been a seeker looking for, you know, how do I be the best version of me and be the best coach that I can be for others and looking for new and different modalities to work better, smarter, faster, right.  

I’m terribly impatient. Yeah. And you know, why spin. Months or years trying to get at something when you can get, do it faster. Right. And, and so in my, in my search and my question, you should see all the books on personal development I have around here. I, uh, there were still a few things of my own that I couldn’t quite get rid of.  

I couldn’t sort out junk in my trunk. Right. And no matter what I did, who I talked to, what kind of coach, therapist, mentor, whatever I had, I still quite good and get at it. And several years ago I discovered the work of Marissa pier. She’s a world renowned. Therapist. And she’s developed a process called rapid transformational therapy.  

And so I did some work with Marissa and it truly was life changing for me in a matter of weeks thing, things I had been digging around, trying to root out for. Probably 20 years were gone, were shifted and I was really blown away by it all. So when she started training people in her methodology, I raised my hand and, uh, dove into the pool at first and went on to get trained and certified as a rapid transformational therapist and a certified hypnotherapist.  

Because RTT for short, um, it’s this really unique blend Damon that brings together cognitive behavioral therapy, neuro linguistic programming, and hypnosis into one session that allows us to talk with your subconscious. Now in starting to do this work. I. Was really left with, well, what happened? What shifted?  

Because I’m very curious. Right? So ultimately what I’ve landed on is I’ve blended RTT with my 18 years of coaching expertise. And when I call a 30 day rapid rewiring program. So that’s why I’m a rapid rewire expert these days. Okay. So one of her lists I’m familiar with, you know, some of those terminologies, um, but.  

Break break down those modalities and neurolinguistics, like explain what that is for any listeners that might not understand that terminal. Yeah. Sure. So cognitive behavioral therapy is a typical type of therapy talk therapy that one would do with them. A therapist, you, you know, you hear all the time, I’m going to see my therapist this week and they do it week after week, year after year after year.  

Right. And it’s a way of processing things that are going on in someone’s life at a conscious level. Okay. Neuro linguistic programming is a fancy term for using how’s it of psychosis or positive language to influence. Um, behavior. So you can use it to influence your own behavior. You can use it to influence other people’s behavior.  

You’ll find NLP a lot in advertising and sales, because it’s, it’s a way of using language to. And when it’s used for good right versus evil, um, it’s a way of positively impact acting how people think and how they make decisions. Right. Right. Then, um, hypnotherapy is a fascinating way. Um, that enables me to put someone into a very relaxed state, taking them from your.  

Daily conscious, critical thinking, judging mine, which is your beta alpha, your beta brainwaves down into an alpha brainwave state, which is that place between conscious, fully consciousness and deep sleep and in an alpha brainwave state, your body’s very, very relaxed in a state of hypnosis. You’re very relaxed, but you’re able to.  

Answer the questions I’m asking you and be able to access your subconscious thinking, which is responsible for 95% of your brain processing power. Right? We have our conscious, critical thinking mind. And all of the thinking we do is lies underneath that conscious thinking is the subconscious and the unconscious mind.  

Right. So through hypnosis, I’m able to access people’s subconscious, which essentially is a giant cloud storage unit, right. Everything that’s ever happened to you is stored in your subconscious memory. So through this process, I’m able to help clients who we’re dealing with, whether it’s a lack of confidence or a lack of self esteem to physical challenge that they might be dealing with from like, say for example, chronic migraines or inflammatory bowel syndrome or severe adrenal fatigue.  

Right. Right. We’re able to get at the root causes that. Spurred those in the first place and shift them in a really powerful way. So it’s, it’s like the best of all worlds coming together inside of a 30 day program. It’s, it’s really powerful and my clients have seen some extraordinary results. So what’s it like to work with you  

So you’ve kind of explained some of the processes, but when somebody comes to you at the beginning, where do you start with them? Sure. So I typically start with a complimentary discovery session and we’ll spend 30 to 60 minutes on the phone together so I can just, you know, listen, what’s actually going on with you.  

What’s not working. What do you want to shift? How would you like it to be differently? Right. Excuse me. And that gives me. Insights into a, can I help this person and be my, the right person for them? And if all of those things align and we decided to do some work together, then. We schedule inside of a 30 day period, we schedule four sessions.  

The first one is a two hour rapid transformational therapy session. And that’s in that, in that session is where I’ll take someone into hypnosis and, um, Really get at those root causes. It’s like going into your garden and pulling out the bad weeds. Right. So we can plant new things. Um, do they need to be there in person with you or do you work with people remotely as well?  

Actually, I do all my work remotely over zoom like this. So I have clients all over the world that I work with, um, which is great because truth be told. It’s probably best people shouldn’t drive after having hypnosis. Cause you’re, you’re, it’s like you’ve just woken up from a nap and you’re not quite a hundred percent president.  

It takes a little bit to kind of come back all the way fully into your body. Yeah. Yeah. So inside of that first session, there, there are three parts actually there’s discover rewire transform. So. Discover I have a deeper set of questions that I’ll ask someone to complete and send it to me before our session.  

So I have detailed to help me prepare for our work together. And we’ll talk about that at the beginning of the call for 20 or 30 minutes, and then I’ll get them relaxed. They want to be in a chair or maybe on the couch with their heads. They’re sitting up with their heads propped up, right. So they can relax fully.  

And, and then I take them into that very relaxed state of hypnosis. And I have a conversation with their subconscious what’s what’s at the root cause of this issue, this belief, this behavior, this addiction, this. Physical issue, right? And your subconscious that remembers everything will bubble up the, the right information, the scenes, the events, the data points that the client needs.  

So they can literally connect the dots and see how they came to that belief or that understanding about this is how life is supposed to be. So the cool thing when someone’s in hypnosis, it’s a very suggestible state, right? And your mind doesn’t know the difference between what’s real and what’s imagined in hypnosis.  

So we’re able to literally rewrite the script, the narrative around those events that probably oftentimes happen when they were very young, maybe as an adolescent, maybe even as a young adult. Right. But you’re able to shift the emotional narrative, eliminating the emotional charge. So it no longer becomes a trigger for you.  

The third portion of the call, the transformation is where I take all of that data that I’ve gathered and I weave it into a custom recording. So while they’re still in hypnosis, I’m now inputting new ideas, beliefs, habits, and behaviors. And we record that portion of the call. And then I mix them by neural music with them. 

Then I send it to them. So their homework over the next 21 to 30 days is to listen to that recording every night as they go to sleep because your brain likes repetition. Right? So as you’re falling asleep, you’re, you’re able to get past the critical judging mind and just allow your subconscious to absorb it because your brain’s always listening.  

It’s always on. And. As you listen to it, the more you think a thought, the more true it becomes for you. Good, bad or ugly. Right. So if you’ve been telling yourself I’m not good enough, I’m not worthy. Who am I? I don’t know enough, et cetera. That becomes your reality, but then process allows us to flip that narrative on its head.  

I am enough. I am talented. I am capable. Whatever the issue is, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat. And literally, as you listen to it, you’re building new neural pathways in your brain. Which is neuro-plasticity and there’s a ton of science around that, about how malleable our brains are and how we can learn new things, no matter what our ages.  

So that’s just the RTT session. And then when we follow that up, In weeks, two, three, and four with 60 minute coaching sessions. And the coaching is there to a provide support for my client all the way through the process, because it’s kind of like doing a brain detox, right. If you’ve ever done a sugar detox, right.  

Where you take out all the bread, all the sugar, all the alcohol, whatever that is. And your whole body’s like, wait, wait, wait, Hey, where did that? Good stuff go away? Come back. Right. Gets a little fussy. Yeah. So in this process, your amygdala, which is your fight or flight mechanism, which is all about keeping you safe.  

I like to call her Amy  in your limbic brain back here. Right. And Amy just wants to protect you and keep you safe inside of your comfort zone. And if Amy. Thinks that making this change is not safe. She will get loud and obnoxious about it. Right. So I provide my clients support all the way through the process, both in between calls, via text and email, and then on our calls with different assignments that I might give them.  

Right, but I’m also giving them new goals and strategies for success around whatever the thing is that they’re working on, whether it’s expanding their business, increasing their confidence or repairing their health. Right. So at the end of the 30 days, they’ve identified the limiting beliefs that instilled the issue.  

They’ve shifted, changed the narrative and they’ve started instilling new beliefs, such that that becomes the new normal, the new familiar. Because your brain likes what’s familiar and will reject what is unfamiliar. So, yeah, it’s a very powerful process. And you know what? I used to work with clients just doing coaching.  

I would have six to 12 month engagements and we have coaching sessions twice a month and they would get results, but it. It takes time. This process allows me to speed up things for my clients and 30 to 90 days to get even more powerful results that are longer lasting. Yeah, it sounds like they can absorb it better that way.  

What was the music called that you said you mixed with your voice and what’s like, what’s the vibe with the music? What kind of music is it? So binaural music is, um, it’s very subtle. It’s very relaxing. Um, I always recommend folks listen to it with their earbuds in, because what it’s doing is it’s, it’s got a particular frequency that.  

That’s playing in the background behind it. That helps drop you down into that alpha and Delta brainwave state. So it is more relaxing for you so that you’re able to take in the information even more easily. Gotcha. What’s what’s the most common thing that you see. That, that I’m sure there’s like a trend or an issue that bubbles up more often than all of the others.  

Is there just like one thing that surfaces more often than not? Yeah. One of the most popular theme songs is, um, just simply I’m not enough. I’m not good enough. I’m not smart enough. I’m not something enough fill in the blank. And that belief that we carry about ourselves ends up. Shaping how we move through the world, how we show up in the world, courageously, not courageously fearful, not fearful, et cetera.  

And so when you, you can shift that it’s, it’s like all the doors and windows suddenly fly open. It’s it’s pretty extraordinary. I mean, for folks who are listening right. If you get nothing else from this conversation today, just simply, right. I am enough on a sticky note on your mirror, on your hand, put it on your computer and tell yourself that every single day I am enough, I am enough.  

Of course, I’m enough. I’ve always been enough. I always will be enough. And as you rinse, repeat that saying to yourself over and over throughout the day, day after day, start to notice what shifts for you and how you see yourself and perceive yourself. It’s really, really beautiful to watch. What’s one of the biggest wow moments that you’ve seen somebody evolve through.  

Um, Gosh, there’s a lot, but the one that comes to mind, um, a client that I worked with for a 90 days, he came to me dealing with severe adrenal fatigue. He had built a multimillion dollar company by the time he was 27, it was always crushing it. Right. And. It nearly killed him because his body failed on him.  

And he went into this severe adrenal fatigue and his, his gut biome was acute. Yes. And so his company fell apart. Um, and he couldn’t didn’t work for me. Two two and a half years. And when, um, I met Chris, he had been in the care of doctors, very, very carefully meticulously monitoring his diet, his stress, his sleep, um, you know, really shifted his whole world because of it.  

And he was slowly getting better. Um, he was able to work two or three hours a day from home and. So we did 90 days worth of work together. And through that work, we were able to get at the underlying root causes of why he always had to crush it. He was a super high performer, right. And it all stems from the, the abuse that he.  

Received as a kid. Right. And he, he had the belief of, if I don’t take care of me, no, one’s going to take care of me. So I have to prove myself. Every single step of the way. And those beliefs drove him so hard. It created this health crisis. And so interestingly enough, he had had blood work done right before we started working together and he had it done again after, and his, his doctor was pretty astounded.  

His, his. Health. He, it came up like 40% inside of 90 days, even having been in doctor’s care for two and a half years and was slowly ratcheting up. And so, um, he, his next business is, you know, on target to be another multimillion dollar business and he’s doing great. He says he feels the best he’s ever felt and has been able to deal with.  

Um, all sorts of challenges that have been thrown and curve balls with grace and ease and has made, been able to maintain his health throughout it. So it’s pretty extraordinary to watch when folks are able to able to create those kinds of powerful shifts in such a short period of time. Yeah. Um, one thing that I’ve noticed in this space lately is, is I was glad to hear, uh, your literal length of time, um, in this industry.  

So you said 18 years, right? Yeah. So one thing that I’ve noticed lately is there’s a lot of, um, I don’t know the right terminology, but there’s a lot of. A lot of new coaches, coaches kind of, you know, coming in to play and none of them, no, I shouldn’t say none of them, but a ton of the ones that I see myself have absolutely no experience.  

And, and I give them credit for having an interest in saying, I feel like it’s my calling to help people. Like I get that, but I don’t get the part where, where they come in and, and they. They feel like they have this massive amount of value. They probably have something. Yeah. Well you, because I believe that they can have a calling and to have some innate skill set, but I don’t think that they can relate to a business owner if they’ve never owned a business, if they’ve failed, uh, they can’t relate to people that are going through a health crisis.  

If they’ve never had a health crisis or, you know, all these things that they’re trying to solve with people, if they haven’t walked through them themselves, they might be able to give like high level, well, This is what you’re doing wrong, but they can’t relate. Um, w w as somebody that has a direct experience, how do you feel about those people coming into the industry?  

That’s a very interesting question, Damon. I have a lot of opinion about that. Um, you know, I. I spent a lot of time and money, um, getting trained and certified in different modalities and different way shapes and forms because knowledge is power and you’re absolutely right. Um, you have to go through the fire to be able to talk about going through the fire.  

Um, and I it’s been interesting because. I’ve always felt like I was sometimes just a few steps ahead of the folks that I’m working with. Cause I had just come through it. And then interestingly enough, those same kinds of challenges came up, um, as coaching clients. Right? So folks who just decide I’m going to be a coach today and dubbed themselves a coach, um, without the experience, without the training, um, You know, they kind of gave him the big, hairy eyeball, like really like who, where does that knowledge come from?  

Right. And, and there’s a lot to be said for life experience. Right. And, um, having the knowledge and. The data to back that up is, is really important. You know, one of my teachers said to me many years ago, your greatest source of pain is your greatest source of power. Right. So when you move through something really, really painful, and then you’re able to take that, learn from it and turn it around and give it as a gift to others that creates enough authentic place to operate from.  

Right. I look at my own experience of, of having my confidence crushed. It’s why I’m so passionate about coaching, because I don’t want to see other people have to go through that. Type of bias and bullying and harassment that I went through. Right. I’m very, very passionate about that. And so I’ve taken that and I use it to fuel the fire in the work that I do in the continual learning in sharpening of my saw, right?  

Another dear friend of mine, um, Sherry and Tom she’s a five time cancer survivor, five times. And she’s created an amazing organization called the cancer journey. And so she trains and certifies people how to be cancer coaches now. Cause she’s, she was a coach before all of that. So, you know, operating from your life experiences is pretty vital to be really good at what you’re doing.  

Um, And it takes time. You can’t, you know, as a, as a 20 something, it’s hard to have that kind of life experience to back up what you’re talking about. And I think that goes into any industry. I mean, a lot of the people that follow me, um, you know, are in the internet, the marketing space and entrepreneur space.  

And, and I get that. Everybody wants to get to the next level, like you said, crush it like you can’t become an expert until you’re an expert. Like you got to put in the time. Um, you know, what’s funny is that for the listeners that, you know, they obviously can’t see, but I liked how you said, you know, Debbie, yourself, a coach with a hand gesture, like bring my hat on.  

I’ve decided today. Yeah. Yeah. So, alright, so now we better understand who you can work with and the general concepts of what you do. What about the people that are not a right fit though? When do you say I’m probably not the right one for you? Sure. Um, you know, I am not a psychiatrist. I am not a psychologist, even though I have, um, years of studying in psychology and human dynamics and organizational behavior.  

Right. And some folks come to me whose challenges are. Larger than I feel comfortable being able to handle. Right. So I will make recommendations. Right. You know, I don’t know if I’m the right person for you to work with at this time, but I would recommend that you go see this person over here and then come back to me.  

Right. It doesn’t happen very often, but, uh, there, there have been some times that that has been the case or the converse side of that is someone who comes to me like, yeah. And I like to try it out. It sounds really cool. Um, and those folks, what I found is if, if there’s not enough, Strong need strong desire to shift something in their life.  

That’s just kind of like, they’re kind of curious and kicking the tires, like what’s this like, right. Um, those aren’t folks that I necessarily in the right person to work with either because I’m really passionate about helping folks who are like, Oh my God, I’ve tried everything. Please help me. I don’t know what else to do.  

Hmm, those are the folks who I know are going to really invest the time and the energy to do this deep dive work, because it’s not for the faint of heart Damon, right? It’s not just a, I’m going to skim the surface of this and escape by this problem. No, we get in there, we dig out the old reads and we pull them out and we, you know, Reset things and it’s uncomfortable and it’s challenging.  

And, um, but it’s very insightful and very, very liberating. Yeah. I imagine that there’s moments of vulnerability where they, where they, like you said, they’re probably uncomfortable in it, but when they’re done, it’s probably very refreshing to have completed that. Exposing that vulnerability. Yes, absolutely.  

You know, my, my client, Chris, I was telling you about earlier. He literally within 24 hours after our very first RTT session. He texted me and he’s like, Oh my God, best 24 hours of my head. Like it was so it created such a powerful shift for him and like that. And not everybody happens that way. Right. Let me be clear about that.  

But. It has continued to unfold for him in a really powerful way, because he is willing to do the deep dive work. I have a creative, a private journal space for each of my clients as well. And his journals like. 85 pages long now, because he really has like poured all of this experience into hit into that document for him.  

Right. To see. Because particularly when you’re dealing with emotional issues, your amygdala, your Amy. Really likes to distract you like squirrel. They don’t look at that. That thing that can be uncomfortable. It could be outside of your comfort zone. Yeah. So that’s why I provide the, the, the journal space for folks, because I want them to record it as they go, because sometimes it can disappear their mind very quickly.  

I had another client who came to me saying I really want to grow my business. Right. I, every time I get to this level, I do something I self sabotage and then the numbers come back down and Oh yeah. And then I get this horrible bout of inflammation, bowel syndrome. How long has that been going on for 15 years?  

Like, Oh, well you want to get rid of that? She’s like, okay, let’s do that. And literally don’t want to two days in, she texted me, she goes, okay, I’ve been listening to my recording every single day. Today I had my biggest client meaning ever am. My whole body is on board. Right. There’s no fear response. And I was super excited for, and I reached out to her like a month later to get a testimonial.  

Like, so how are you doing? You know, how, what are you feeling and experience? And she’s like, what did we work on? I don’t remember. Like, indeed completely, really disappeared that she had been dealing with IBS for 15 years and now it’s gone. You know, so it’s pretty extraordinary how powerful our mind is.  

It’s so funny that the thing, like when you were saying that, that’s the first thing that I was thinking as my, in, in my mind was that it’s probably been going on long enough for them, but it’s now normal that they, that they don’t realize that that’s not a normal thing. Yes, exactly. Because. No, your brain likes what’s familiar.  

And if you got hardwired at a young age, that IBS was your way to deal with stress that’s what’s normal. I had another client who came to me same with a similar issue, dealing with IBS for 15 years. And in talking with her, it was fascinating. She, in high school, she played basketball. And her dad was her coach and her dad would literally, after each game, even if she won, even if she played a good game, he would criticize her.  

And, and he would say to her, you’re the shits. I can’t believe that you are just the shit  and she internalized that and literally started having IBS. Yeah, for 15 years. And when we recognized that. Language that data that she had taken in and taken on an owned and shifted it, it went away. Yeah. Like a, like a literal interpretation, you know, I think, I think I mentioned this once before with another guest, but I was watching, Oh gosh, I can’t remember who, I don’t know if it’s like a Tony Robbins kind of thing, but there was a gentleman who stuttered and they narrowed it down to when he was five, six, seven, eight, something like that.  

And he would watch the rock. Gimbal incl shell. And every time the one character that stutters would get would get nervous he’d stutter. And so when he was at a young age, he internalized that as a nervous reaction and then just stuttered his whole life. And then after that was identified, the stuttering went away.  

Yup. Yup. No, it’s, it’s really powerful. Um, another client was dealing with, um, S. Severe sweaty palms and feet are whole life. She was like the hyperhidrosis. I got that. Oh, wow. I really like this because through the regression, a couple of scenes came up that seemed kind of benign. So one was, um, when she was.  

Still pretty young. Like her mom would pick her up from school and drop her off at the house before she went to work. And her sister wouldn’t get home for another 10, 50, 18 minutes. And so she’d have to be at home, home by herself. And that scared her. Right. The second thing was, she didn’t like that or big sister.  

Got it. More attention than she did. Hmm. And the third thing was she was really shy. And anxious. Right? And so she was, she connected the dots that her body had decided the best way to process my anxiety. And my fear is to cry out of my hands and feet because then I have a condition and then I’ll get more attention than my sister.  

Hmm. Now this is not a logical processing. It happens in, you know, a six year old. Um, but your, your amygdala, your aim is like, I got you. I I’ll take care of it. Right. And so when she was able to recognize that she had created this problem as a little girl, as a way of getting more attention in a way of processing her anxiety, she was able to turn it back off again.  

And it stopped completely pretty extraordinary as, as you help all these people learn things about themselves. I have to imagine that sometimes you reflect internally and I’ve learned something about yourself. Is there anything that stands out you’ve learned about yourself throughout all these. Oh, gosh.  

Um, I laugh because sometimes when I’m coaching information kind of comes through me to my clients, oftentimes I call them downloads, like, and just kind of comes through and, and I’ll, and I’ll smile quietly to myself. It was like, Oh, that was for me too. It’s a two for day. I needed that piece of it, but it’s fascinating.  

Like the things that come out of my mouth, I’m like, Oh, that was really for me, you know? Um, gosh, so many different ways shapes and forms. Right. So, um, but you know, I think just. Some of the most powerful things was just reminding myself that, Oh yeah, I am enough. I am good enough and capable and talented.  

Um, Because even though I’ve been doing this for so long, long, and I’ve worked really hard and I do know a boatload of stuff, right. There’s always more to learn. Yeah. And, you know, I think we all have, we have our own insecurities that every once in a while and get triggered and it’s good to get a reminder, even if it’s.  

You know, from a third party coming through your own self, if that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Michelle, I appreciate your time as we get closer to wrapping up, I want to give you the opportunity. Um, I think you have some freebies for our listeners. Yeah. Yes, yes I do. So, um, You can always go to my website, nectarconsulting.com , n E C T a R consulting.com and learn more about, um, my work.  

Uh, you can schedule a complimentary discovery session there and we can spend some time chatting, but I would encourage you to go to the brain candy section of my website, which is chock full of, um, goodness and free things. I have several guided meditations there. I have, um, Two different eBooks, uh, that include a guide transformation recordings that go with them.  

So one is saying no with grace and grit and the other one is tapping into your power and presence and being that it’s my 18th anniversary this month. Um, I also have coming up on, uh, the end of the month, um, a webinar, a free webinar called rewire your relationship. With money. And so, um, it’s a great webinar.  

It’s about 90 minutes long, and I can give you all the data points so you can share it in the show notes with your folks. Cool. Yeah, that’d be great. Well, Michelle Molitar, nectarconsulting.com. Uh, last thing I like to ask our guests is how do you want to be remembered? How do I want to be remembered? Oh, um, I would like to be remembered as someone who was a beacon of light and was able to help others find the light within themselves and whatever shape or form that looks like.  

I love it. Michelle Molitar, nectarconsulting.com. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me, Damon. It’s been a real pleasure.